Dumbass

jesus fucking christ.

oh and i heard the quote, he actually said "deers" not deer.

What a douche!

I heard he was on TV this AM in an interview with Matt Lauer and the President of PETA, who apparently ripped him a new one.

Lauer asked if he would have defended a white player who was accused of the same crime, to which he stammered and didn't come up with an answer.

the guy is not only a scumbag thug, he's also a racist.

DEAR DUMBA$$ MARBURY AND CREW:

Just do yourselves a favor and stop speaking, ok, because deer hunting isn't quite the same thing. WHY YOU ASK? Well -- it's simple, really, No one breeds deer to then beat the shit out of them, eltrocute them, hang them, throw them to the ground until their heads smash open, and then gamble on whether they'll live or not. GET IT???? Probably not.

In my area, hunting takes place in a very ethical way. You're allowed one deer, and the purpose is really to keep the population of deer down so they don't all starve to death (which is excruciatingly more painful than a bullet to the head).

There's no comparison here, so stop trying!

Wow! this guy is pretty damn stupid- makes you wonder why we even support people like this- just another thug...racist jerk!!

I agree, Marbury and all of the Vick supporters are douchebags. I come from a family of hunters, who also happen to breed hunting dogs. There is NO comparison between hunting and dog-fighting, the main reason being that hunters actually LIKE their dogs, consider them "part of the family" and tend not to profit from their death. Ugh, I hate, truly hate, all of these Vick supporters...he is an ass and so are they!

bravo mr. harvey.

i say it's time to interview all professional sports players and see where they stand on the issue. that way the "fans" will be able to decide which teams to support.

AMEN! He is not only a racist, but he is an uneducated, illiterate buffoon!! Deer are not domesticized animals; dogs are. That is the difference!

I am from Atlanta, and I am SO glad that not only did the NFL Commissioner suspend Vick, but that Arthur Blank supported it, because I would NEVER attend a Falcons football game if Vick was on the team. First of all, he shot a bird at fans. Secondly, he tried to slip "something" through security at the airport. Thirdly, a woman came out and claimed she got herpes from Michael Vick. He did something else that I cannot remember now. ANYONE who treats animals; i.e. dogs and/or cats, like he did, has NO SOUL!!!! Karma will getcha!

I wonder how these thugs would feel if we brought back lynching as a sport? Sorry homies... beatin' on animals ranks you lowest on the food chain and puts you one step closer to rank of serial killer. Parting words: you can take the boy outta the hood, but you can't take the hood outta the boy. Peace, yo.

I'm confused... what points to him being racist here? Is it something else he's said? (Since obviously, what's here isn't racist just because he's black and Vick's black. And stammering at an irrelevant question doesn't prove anything either.) I don't know this guy, so maybe there's history that I'm unaware of?

AMEN! This is one of many reasons I don't watch or support "professional" sports...most of them are thugs, wife abusers and/or drug addicts.

figures- one dumb thug defending another.....

i think he's trying to say that why is one form of cruelty towards animals ok and the other isn't?

This whole situation perpetuates negative stereotypes about blacks and about this breed of dogs. These people are supposed to be role models but I don't think anyone in good conscience could say that they want their children to grow up to be animal torturing murderers. Michael Vick should be put in a steak suit and made to spend some quality time with all 53 seized dogs before they have to be put down.

Cruelty against -anything- is never right and should never be uncritically tolerated.

Hunting isn't the greatest thing in my opinion but it's not deliberate torture. Breeding dogs to kill them and beat them is.

OK so no more support of the Falcons or the Knicks, that one hits home. I will not support in anyway theses two teams. Hit them in the wallet- that includes the teams that hire these fools.

I swear, I do not understand why this man is being villified as much as he is. You all raise more money for animal shelters than domestic violence and homeless shelters. I guess if he'd raped a woman or pissed on some little girl his career would not have suffered a bit.

Hunting is "sport" but dogfighting not, why??
is because hunting is for white rich people and dog fighting is a black people's thing?

maybe he's trying to make a point here.

both activities involve killing animals that equally deserved our attention, then why we only complaint against dog fighting??

he's still a moron about dogfighting=sport

PETA said:
I wonder how these thugs would feel if we brought back lynching as a sport? Sorry homies... beatin' on animals ranks you lowest on the food chain and puts you one step closer to rank of serial killer. Parting words: you can take the boy outta the hood, but you can't take the hood outta the boy. Peace, yo.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^Wow, it's amazing how given the opportunity, what in other situations may appear to be a perfectly sane person, will grab a white sheet and hood out of the closet and burn a cross on your lawn. Defending the rights of animals is noble. Insulting a culture you know nothing about (except what you've seen on "Cribs") is not. Check yourself sweetheart.

To Confused: you're wrong to say that we care about animals not people. Not True. To Peta: to bring up lynching is completely racist. Regarding deer hunting vs. dog fighting, two completely different things. I could never hunt, but all hunters I've met are nature and animal lovers and respect both. They hunt deer and use the meat for food. They Do Not hunt to torture animals. They make sure to try and kill as quickly and humanely as possible.

(1) Hunting is NOT the same as dog fighting. Hunting is often necessary. I don't like it, but growing up near the Chesapeake Bay with forests etc, white tail deer get out of control. There is a hunting season, it's regulated etc. (although, I say it would only be "sport" if the deer had guns too). The hunters I know (black, white, asian, etc) all use what they shoot. Dogfighting is raising dogs and teaching them to kill or be killed. I completely agree it gives a bad name to the dog breeds involved
(2) Did anyone else see Anderson Cooper 360 last night? That stupid woman who compared dog fighting to horse racing? Yea, not the same at all. There is a difference b/w when an animal is put down humanely b/c of an injury and when the "purpose" of the "sport" is to kill the other dog or inhumanely kill it. (sorry, I just had to bitch about that dumb bitch for a minute)

I agree with CONFUSED, that wasnt a racist statement. I love ASL but this is a gossip site people not a platform to spew your racist venom. I agree with most, I hate that Vick was stupid enough to participate is this type of behavior, appalling and he should be punished. But regardless of your ethic background, America is a racist society and given the opportunity the most liberal, gay adoring, gossip loving fans will show their true colors. You all frequent a gossip site but yet you sound like the KKK. Patrick Kerney of the Seattle Seahawks had a woman allegedly raped in his home (not by him) wheres the news on that? Vick is a celebrity but what about those non celebrity white kids who hung a nooses from trees in Jena, LA who were suspended for 3 days but when 6 black kids protested and got into a fight with one of the suspended kids they are facing 20 years in jail. Why is Spector still having this bs trial for all this time, why is Baretta free, yet Mike didnt kill a human but he is facing serious time. The average white person would be in jail if they did what La Lohan did and if that person was black they would be under the jail. For a culture that never has to worry about even the most influential positive black figures and celebrities ever getting the same treatment as their white counterparts stop hating so much its not a good look. And Vick is being made an example of because he is black, yes some fight dogs in the hood but they fight them in the white backwoods as well. And cock fighting popular too amongst whites too. Let it go people. Hopefully Vick will grow up, never do that horrible act again surround himself with people who have sense and move on. Some of you will continue to comment on this site and others and sound like David Duke and Hitlers of America. And truth be told any law makers can make up rules to suite their selfish needs like deer hunting. The way deers breed is natural the way we tear down land isnt, we are making it legal to kill them because they continue to breed the way they were made to and we continue to build over open land. The deers have no where to go, so the end up being shot a couple time a year so that we dont run into them on the freeway plain and simple. Just because people made a law to suite their needs doesnt make it right.

Amazed, I agree that a gossip blog isn't the place for "racist venom," it shouldn't have a place anywhere...but it rears it's ugly head daily in this and other countries. My take on Mr. Vick has zero to do with what color his skin is; it has everything to do with the kind of person he has shown himself to be. He is in a position (like it or not) of being a role model. He was caught doing horrible things to animals as well as breaking NFL rules against player gambling. He should be punished on the basis of those crimes. If the NFL feels that he should continue to play, then so be it; but, that doesn't mean people will buy tickets...
It's been my observation that Mr. Vick's cavalier attitude is partly responsible for the way people (like me) view him and what he has done.

Zekers, I agree. I have to admit I have grown weary of Vicks actions, water bottle incident, Herpes case etc. It is a reflection of his character, and a sad one at that. Unfortunately money doesnt negate ones character it actually shines light on it. I live in Atlanta and have never been a fan of Vick or the Falcons. Vick needs this experience to humble himself. Those in the entertainment industry should understand that they are role models and they will and should be held to higher standards, it comes with the territory.

Did this asshole say that dog fighting is a sport? He is the biggest fucking asshole to unfortunately grace this world with his presence. First of all, how is it a sport when these poor dogs are forced to tear at eat other and then are left to suffer the consequences if they lose? How is that shit a sport you fucking dumbass?! I say we lock your ass up with Ving Rhames dogs and call it a fucking day bitch!!!

Yeah, I have to wonder what Marbury was thinking by opening his mouth on this subject...if he was hoping to defend Vick, he failed miserably and made himself look a fool doing it...he earned being called a "dumbass."

I think all of yall need to get a life!!! What ever white america thinks is wrong has got to be the law. PLEASE. Dog fighting has been going on for centuries all over the world. There are things that we all agree that are wrong but we let it go because in some cases that is the culture of things.

Think before you speak people!!!!

"Think before you speak people!!!!"

...to which I say, 'right back at 'cha Grant.' There are many things that are cultural, cannibalism being one...it's not acceptable anymore than animal torture...where are you from?

goldend,
"Hunting is "sport" but dogfighting not, why??
is because hunting is for white rich people and dog fighting is a black people's thing?"

A) Hunting is hardly a rich white thing. BIG GAME hunting, yes. Hunting in general is a mid to lower class thing. Not bound to any race.

B) Dog fighting is a black thing? Hardly. Dog fighting is an ethic's thing. Whites, Blacks, Hispanics. As long as they are young men, it also is not bound by race.

I personally would never eat wild killed game, (or meat period for that matter) but hunting is a necessary evil to control populations in a world where natural habitats are being decimated.

Dog fighting is an unethical, evil violent release for cruel men who have been brought up with no values or principles.

Period.

anonymous said:

I'm confused... what points to him being racist here? Is it something else he's said? (Since obviously, what's here isn't racist just because he's black and Vick's black. And stammering at an irrelevant question doesn't prove anything either.) I don't know this guy, so maybe there's history that I'm unaware of?

It's not an irrelevant question. It's a legitimate one. The fact that he didn't say "yes, absolutely, I'd support a white guy in the same situation" or words to that effect is what points to him being a racist. different treatment due to skin color. isn't that what racism IS?

call it "reverse racism" if you like, but supporting someone simply because he's a fellow black man is racism. perhaps not in the conventional sense of the word, but it IS racism.

Vick is not being "made an example of" because he's black. he's just getting more PRESS on what he did because he's FAMOUS.

Zekers said "My take on Mr. Vick has zero to do with what color his skin is; it has everything to do with the kind of person he has shown himself to be. He is in a position (like it or not) of being a role model. He was caught doing horrible things to animals as well as breaking NFL rules against player gambling. He should be punished on the basis of those crimes. If the NFL feels that he should continue to play, then so be it; but, that doesn't mean people will buy tickets...
It's been my observation that Mr. Vick's cavalier attitude is partly responsible for the way people (like me) view him and what he has done."

EXACTLY. thank you for stating it so perfectly.

Grant said:

I think all of yall need to get a life!!! What ever white america thinks is wrong has got to be the law. PLEASE. Dog fighting has been going on for centuries all over the world. There are things that we all agree that are wrong but we let it go because in some cases that is the culture of things.

sorry, grant, it's not "white america", it's AMERICA. And dog fighting is illegal in the US. yeah, it's been going on for centuries all over the world. And it's still legal in some places. thankfully, our legislators in the US have seen the light and outlawed it. sure, we can't stop it in other countries, but we can disapprove.

"I could never hunt, but all hunters I've met are nature and animal lovers and respect both. They hunt deer and use the meat for food. They Do Not hunt to torture animals. They make sure to try and kill as quickly and humanely as possible."

WHAT??? Sounds like fairy dreams and unicorn farts to me. T-bone was correct in saying that hunting is needed to lower the deer population so they don't starve.

But to say that ALL hunters you've met are animal lovers? BULLSHIT, you haven't met enough hunters. I have seen people HANG deer in their FRONT LAWN and and ride with the tail-gate of their truck down to show off the "kill". I've also known people who speed up while driving to hit a deer (yes, the redneck jokes are true). They may eat the meat, but they don't use the rest of the animal, unless of course you consider stuffing and hanging the head in the living room using (part of) it.

I'll give you that they try to kill them as quickly as possible, but don't act like they're giving it a lethal injection. They're still SHOOTING them. It's not exactly humane.

No offense but I don't care if you are white, red or green!! abuse of animals(and people)isn't right!! I live in the same state as Vick was charged, and have been listening to the coverage which makes me physically ill!!! To those of you who think this is a "sport" F#$K YOU!! This is nothing other than someone showing control over an animal that has no voice!!! These dogs feel pain, joy, sadness, and anyone out there who doesn't believe it, has no soul!! My animals are part of my family, and would NEVER hurt one of them!! Where I come from there are hunters of all races, and it is enforced by the Law!!! Hunters give food to those who are less fortunate, keep the population down, (so if you are riding in the country in your brand new car, they don't smack your windshield)Dog fighting is not HUMANE in any way shape or form!! I don't like Vick, never have, he's a cocky SOB, who thinks just because he can throw a football, he's special! I hope he never gets to play again, (even after his so called paying his debt to society)well a majority of society would like to shove a rod up his ass, electrocute him, and make him feel pain, like he did with those dogs!! WE ARE ANGRY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THESE DOGS DON'T HAVE A VOICE, IF YOUR COMMENTING ON ABUSE OF PEOPLE, THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC!! (THAT OF COURSE IS WRONG)THIS IS ABOUT JUSTICE FOR THOSE POOR ANIMALS WHO LOOKED UP TO VICK AND HIS PEOPLE FOR FOOD, SHELTER, AND LOVE!! I HOPE HE MEETS THE BIGGEST BADDEST CONVICT WHO HAS A SOFT SPOT FOR ANIMALS, AND TEACHES VICK A LESSON!! I HOPE HE LOSES THE MONEY, THE POSITION GIVEN TO HIM, AND I HOPE THOSE OUT THERE DOING THE SAME THING GETS WHAT IS COMING TO THEM!! KARMA IS A BITCH!!

AND Jamie Foxx has to have his say...

""It's a cultural thing, I think. Most brothers didn't know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn't know that was Fed time. So, Mike probably just didn't read his handbook on what not to do as a black star. I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don't get time. I think in this situation,he really didn't know the extent of it, so I always give him the benefit of the doubt.""

Being black does NOT EXCUSE breaking the law.

"what not to do as a black star"?

how about "what not to do as a HUMAN BEING"?

geez, Foxx is just as much of a dumbass as Vick and Marbury.

He probably still thinks OJ didn't do it.

Jamie Foxx is a complete moron. Vick didn't know this was illegal??? Give me a break. And here we go pulling the 'brother' card again. "So, Mike probably just didn't read his handbook on what not to do as a black star." I'd like to see this so called handbook. Does it have a chapter on "Defending Your Brothers No Matter What They Do"??? or maybe the introduction is written by the Rev. Al Sharpton? This is the reverse racisim that was mentioned earlier, these 'stars' coming out and deliberately putting the 'black' in their statements. That was not needed ~ we know he's black. It's not about color, as we have said before, it is about CRIME and ILLEGAL DOGFIGHTING. And I love his 'this is a cultural thing' crap. He saw it all the time in his neighborhood. Ok, well, say we have a crack house in our neighborhood, does that mean it's culturally ok for my kids to run one when they grow up, since they saw it and figured it's just a cultural thing? What about a whorehouse? What if a neighbor beat his wife all the time, is it culturally ok for others to do it too then? Idiots.

One of the things that is starting to bother me even more than the dog fighting is the fact that it is becoming more clear every day that the race card is going to be pulled here in a BIG way.

Jamie talking about a brother just didn't know...the NAACP talking about Vick being persecuted, a white man would get this attention...

It is shit like this that keeps racism alive and thriving in this country.

Mike Vick broke the law and did terrible things. Blue, white, yellow, black or purple.

Sadly, just like Simpson, people will support an evil man JUST BECAUSE of the color of his skin.

Personally speaking, I couldn't care less if it was Michael Vick, Babe Ruth, or Abe Lincoln --- if I would have found out they were breeding dogs to beat, torture and kill them, I would have said the same thing about all of them. The only thing racist about this case is how I see African Americans supporting a man who fully admits his guilt, based solely on the fact that he's black. NOW THAT'S racist. Come on people -- stand up for what's right.

As for the whole "you care more about animals than you do people" bull. Doesn't fly. People are quite capable of caring for both. A respect for life is a respect for life, all the way around. In fact, I won't give to an animal cause unless I match it with a children's cause - -but that's my own way of doing it. but to say people can't support both is presumptuous.

nastybugger said:

It's not an irrelevant question. It's a legitimate one. The fact that he didn't say "yes, absolutely, I'd support a white guy in the same situation" or words to that effect is what points to him being a racist. different treatment due to skin color. isn't that what racism IS?

call it "reverse racism" if you like, but supporting someone simply because he's a fellow black man is racism. perhaps not in the conventional sense of the word, but it IS racism.

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Now, I'm even more confused. Why is it a relevant question? I really don't get why that question belongs in the discussion. We don't go around every day when someone defends another's actions and ask "would you say that if X was white? or asian? or hispanic? or whatever.. " It's introducing race into a conversation when it wasn't there (at least as this Marbury thing has been presented here), and if folks are trying to say that race shouldn't be part of the debate (e.g., dog fighting as a black thing or not) then doesn't that apply across the board? Why would you even think that someone would think differently if it were a white person? Do we just assume all black people are racist? Do we randomly walk up to black people and ask if what they're doing is because they're black? What does it have to do with anything? I really don't understand why it was asked in the first place.

Even if you're right and it is relevant -

Just because someone didn't jump up and down saying "yes, absolutely, I'd support a white guy in the same situation," doesn't mean that he in fact wouldn't support a white guy in the same situation. Just because he didn't respond with the speed and the exact words many wanted to hear doesn't mean that he thought "nah, screw the whiteys." Perhaps he, like I did, thought that to be a stupid, irrelevant question and was thrown off guard by it. Who knows what was in his head, but to assume that his lack of jumping to the answer meant he's racist is a HUGE assumption.

If that's the best argument there is, then it's a pretty lame one, and dare I say - perhaps racist? Who knows. Do we ask white people who defend hunting, "Would you say that if it was a black guy hunting?"? If you think that question is a bit odd (and I can't say I've ever heard it - but maybe you have), but asking this guy if he would say the same thing if it was a white guy seems to be "different treatment due to skin color."

I really hope that if people are throwing out accusations of racism against Marbury, they have a better argument than this. And I'm not saying "go find a reason to call him racist." If one thought Marbury racist, then that person had a reason before any extra research. (Perhaps there is one, hence my question. But so far, haven't heard it.)

Speaking of extra research though - I'm researching Marbury and I can't even find any cite that says someone asked this question (the question if he would say the same if the guy was white). Where's the source for that claim? Could we be arguing, accusing someone of racism, for something that didn't even happen?

T-Bone said:
As for the whole "you care more about animals than you do people" bull. Doesn't fly. People are quite capable of caring for both.
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Absolutely true that people are capable of caring for both. It would just be nice to actually see more caring.

All i have to say is that, if you are one of those "burn in hell, michael vick" people....and your sitting at your computer with your leather shoes/belt/jacket...or vest(!?!), and eating your KFC, with your nice clean body (which im sure half of the products to get you clean are/were tested on animals.......
fuck you.
hypocrites.