Ellen DeGeneres Has the Ability to Invoke Death Threats

Perhaps if Ellen wouldn't have used her own television show to air her own personal issues, this wouldn't have gotten so "surreal" and out of hand.

She goes on national television and slams a small dog rescue group (because SHE violated a contract) and now wonders why that small group is getting death threats. That's funny -- very funny.

Don't forget that it was the group that first contacted Page Six and initiated this whole ordeal.

i'm just trying to focus on the dog -- hoping he has a good home now. i love ellen. i love no-kill shelters. i hate sketchy ppl who don't know how to read the fine print -- as well as those who don't explain the fine print. focus on the dog. focus on the dog. focus on the dog..........

and it's the new 'safe' family that now has Iggy that are getting death threats.

Excuse my language, but for f@ck sake. All this over a dog.I happen to be a dog lover, but this is ridiculous.

apronk -- Page 6 was contacted after Ellen's publicist made threats to the animal rescue group.

Yeah, she has to take pretty much full responsibility for how this "surreal" situation came about and how it turned out. Ellen screwed up and the best thing she could do (in my humble opinion) is admit that she blew it, issue an apology to all those who were dragged into this and in the future...FOLLOW THE CONTRACT! She needs to do a little PR for Mutts & Moms as well, she owes them that much for dragging them through this very public humiliation, which again, she created.

Poor Iggy...

Death threats and physical threats over this indicate the intellectual level of a portion of Ellen's fan base. Pretty f-ing scary, if you ask me.

I've never seen her show and now I'm glad I haven't. If Ellen were a smart person, she'd be using her air time to tell her zealots to settle down and quit threatening innocent people. Jeez, the dog is okay and nobody seems to care about this fact...folks just want to be pissed off I guess...

Oprah should interview Iggy on her show to get his side of the story.

Iggy Come Home!

Ellen effed up,no doubt. But the agency isn't on the up and up either. There were things that are normally done when adopting out a rescue and they weren't. So, the are AS MUCH to blame for the bad name given to rescues as Ellen is.

I happen to like rescues because its a good thing they're so selective. I got my baby (dog, whatever!) from one.

Both parties had responsibilties here and neither lived up to them.

The ONLY people I feel badly for are the new family members...and Iggy. Enough trauma for the dog already

actually I see Iggy with his own talk show....I'm sorry, I know this story has touched a nerve with a lot of people but its gotten out of hand. Death threats. Wow.

No they are not "as much to blame", Krystyn. WHY? Because Ellen is the mega-celebrity with all the power. When you have that kind of power, you need to be VERY careful how you use it. What if Oprah did this? What if Oprah started crying to her bazillion fans about someone "wronging her"??? Do you have any idea what would happen? Some ridiculous fan would seriously go and kill that person. And Oprah would be responsible.

Didn't M&M contact Page Six FIRST? Didn't they show up at Ellen's house, pick up the dog, and refuse to set the dog down for TWO HOURS? Didn't they call the police so they could reclaim the dog? They are attention whores and f*cking PSYCHOS. Ellen didn't follow the terms of the contract. BFD. It's not as though she's using the puppy to make soup. Ellen's a celebrity, and she's using her celebrity to try to get the dog back. BFD. It's not like she's using her talk show to score some crack. Sobbing on national television over the snatching of this dog doesn't make her evil.
If Ellen is smart, she will partner with another shelter and leave M&Ms to their own destruction. I'm sure she can find 250 dogs in the L.A. area that would be a good match for this family. And chances are, the ASPCA won't show up in the family's back yard to hold the dog hostage.
Like her or not, TEAM ELLEN all the way.

...sad but true T-bone.

Well, I'm off to set up my mom's moving sale...just keep telling myself it'll be over soon... :(

Keep these Ellen fans in line T!

Okay, I don't know the truth about Page Six, but I stand by my belief that what M&M did was excessive and unnecessary.

I 100% agree Zekers. I won't watch her show (never have, but now for sure won't) until she apologizes (in some way) for what she has done to this rescue group and how she used her "celebrity status" for her own personal purposes. Makes me sick. She may have started with "good intentions" but she is responsible for this snowballing mess, and it wouldn't suprise me a bit if she got sued. Iggy is just fine with this new family, nutbag Ellen fanatics. Leave Iggy be.

P.S. I've said my piece on this subject and am done now. Don't want to elevate my blood pressure any further :), So if anyone else comes out here and posts under T-Bone, just know it isn't me. I'm just going to sit back and wait for the day when I hear Ellen's being sued for destroying a small animal rescue group with her mighty celebrity power.

I'm sorry but Mutts and Moms were OTT on how they handled the 'rescue' of the dog. Issuing a statement that the dog is now with a 'safe' family insinuates that the hairdresser friend's family weren't safe. They haven't come out clearly and said that though. They obviously feel they are the only people qualified to make that decision, certainly not Ellen.
They are nit picking over their blessed contract and obviously that is more important to them than the welfare of the dog.

this whole thing is stupid. everyone involved seems to have acted pretty poorly thus far.

let's hope it ends with ellen going out and buying her hairdresser's kids a new puppy though.

end of story.

For the ignorant, and there are MULTIPLES:

I, being a rescuer, don't want a dog to go to a home with financial constraints. If one cannot afford the adoption fee, then how will one afford basic preventive care (flea/tick and heartworm meds), annual vet visits, and emergencies or disease that arise?

Why go through all the trouble of saving a dog and bringing he/she into rescue only to adopt out to a home that can't afford the animal's care?

As someone who has adopted a dog from a rescue organization, I would have to side with them. The place I adopted from likes to hear how our new family member has been doing. They also are able to provide helpful information on what to do if we have any problems with our dog - they can recommend training, obedience classes, vets, groomers, good dog food...etc. Did Ellen contact M&M for help? Or did she just disregard the agreement she signed and got rid of the dog because it was too much hassle and work? Did she do her homework beforehand to make sure this would be a suitable type of dog to add to a household with cats? Did she introduce the dog and cats properly? (Slowly, on neutral turf). When you sign a contract or agreement, you are in effect agreeing to abide by that. If you don't agree with policy, then find an organization whose policy you agree with.

I think we should give T-Bone to a pack of dogs; she doesn't get a little girls pet was taken from her. Ellen shined a spot lite on a heartless B and all you can do is attack Ellen. Get a heart Bone head. Give Iggy Back to the little girl.

Mutts and Moms better issue a public apology to Ellen and fast.

Shame on this agency - IF this agency is to place pets I am not sure what the problem was. The pet was in a loving home. Maybe Ellen did not read the document as well as she should have, BUT if the agencies main goal is to place animals then what is the problem. The animal was in a loving - IF they can prove the new home was unfit that is different -otherwise shame on them - as it seems they just want in the news for fighting with Ellen.

t-bone, don't hold yer breath on the being sued thing...

the entire US Beef industry sued Oprah for their declining business after she made that comment on her show about never eating beef again, and they lost.

because Ellen hasn't (as far as I know) said something to the effect of "to all of my fans and those that support me, run this place out of business!", the rescue org would have a hard time proving it was Ellen's fault if they go belly up.

IMO, both sides handled this whole situation poorly. Ellen for not honoring the contract, the rescue organization for not seeing the bigger picture (the dog being in a good home being more important than their contract) and both of them for using the public airwaves to handle their dispute. And I think that M&M used Ellen's celebrity just as much as Ellen did. But I DO agree that Ellen needs to say something to her fans to CHILL OUT and not make death threats. That AIN'T cool.

That "lady" is a crackpot. She was on GMA this am and she said something to the effect that Ellen should open up her own shelter, and who does Ellen think she is to judge who should adopt a dog. My question is who does this woman think she is to judge? Is she a human behavior expert because she owns an upscale dog boutique? No one under 14 should have a dog? Does she have children? I've never seen a kid over 10 that couldn't help take care of a dog and almost any kid can love a dog. She doesn't think they're suitable to own a dog? Is that code for they're not rich enough? It's really a shame that there are people like this (huge ego and power hungry) deciding who should and shouldn't buy (oops, adopt, same thing in this case) a dog. Shame on her and others like her. Plus, her rules only apply when they're convenient for her. Too bad for those kids.

HORRIBLE AGENCY. Ellen simply did not realize what she signed forbid her to find a new home for the dog herself. She has said she was sorry and the agency came with POLICE to snatch the dog back from a loving home! An honest mistake was made and Ellen acknowleged this. The owner of the agency seems off her rocker and clearly has something against celebrities. She clearly never expected this kind of backlash to her actions and she would be smart to back down immediately. Her shelter should also be closed or closely monitored for it's behavior

There are so many unwanted dogs in this world...who is this lady to deny a dog a perfectly good home, just to be a bit.. and prove a point! How could she take the dog away from a family that fell in love with it...sometimes rules (especially stupid ones) are made to be broken! Dogs are a great way for a child to learn responsibility and commitment!

TB/Cody/TskTsk/Nathan/Janet

Ellen's henchmen are out here again.
All the same people though, shame.

it think that all of baktis' whining is great. the shelter she runs gets the majority of its money and support from CELEBRITY FUND RAISERS. THE PET STORE SHE RUNS GETS A HUGE PROTION OF ITS BUSINESS FROM CELEBRITIES. after her trash talking celebrities like this, how likely does she think that celebrities will be to support her now? this is one idiotic woman. ill bet that the next time she calls alyssa milano or shannon elizabeth to help out with a fund raiser, they will suddenly 'not be available'. please keep whining baktis, then you can fade back to obscurity that you were in before all those 'evil' celebrities made you one of the most profitable pet stores/shelters in southern cal. i hope ellen does open a her own shelter, i am sure that all the celebrities who USED to support mutts and moms will be glad to support her

We in rescue have this rule for a reason.

I want you to meet Dolly , she was adopted out to a "lady" , who within the week decided the dog was to much work and gave the dog away to another person. Which is against my adoption contract. A few days after she dumped the dog I get a call from Avid the microchip company , my poor Dolly is sitting at the dog pound, terrified that she is back at the puppymill from which she came.

www.maryshouse.us/dolly.htm

Ellen was WRONG , I do not care who you are you can not be doing what she did. And then to take advantage and go on TV and try to make herself look good.

This is about control. She was out to prove a point that some Hollywood type wasn't going to put one over on her. The dog went to a good home and now the website and such are closed because she had to be in control. Its her own fault. I feel badly for Ellen and her friend's family. She lost site of the fact a 12 yr old has not stopped crying since the dog was taken. Plus the fact Ellen signed no contract like the bone lady keep arguing with people about, even if she did sign it it would not hold up in court..Eat another T-Bone you fat heartless cow.

So, Ellen says she was wrong & she is sorry. So what! Does that give her a pass as all of you seem to automatically give her. So much damange has been done because of her stupid decision to make her show a personal platform w/out thinking first!! What if Hitler, after 2 yrs of WWII simply said "Well folks, I'm sorry, I was wrong" Do you really think you'd give him a pass!!??
Sorry just doesn't cut it Ellen!! Actions do speak louder than words. Do something about what you've done Ellen.

So, Ellen says she was wrong & she is sorry. So what! Does that give her a pass as all of you seem to automatically give her. So much damange has been done because of her stupid decision to make her show a personal platform w/out thinking first!! What if Hitler, after 2 yrs of WWII simply said "Well folks, I'm sorry, I was wrong" Do you really think you'd give him a pass!!??
Sorry just doesn't cut it Ellen!! Actions do speak louder than words. Do something about what you've done Ellen.

Disagree with you, T-Bone. Ellen didn't "destroy" this rescue agency (which is a boutique, btw). They went mental and held the dog hostage, then were on GMA this morning, acting like they "rescued" this dog from a serial puppy killer. Mutts and Moms f***ed it up all on their own.

hi im formally from detroit michigan..... ive worked with organaztions likes mutts and moms, and rescused animals myself and placed them into good homes..... my opinion is i think you should interview the family and take it from there.one i dont think ellen would have given iggy to a bad home.... 2 the family had iggy for 2 weeks before mutts and moms took iggy away from the family.... my opinion... i dont think that was right..... theres ways of working this out..... mutts and moms... work this out with the family.... these animals need good loving homes..... your making this situation bigger than it is. when you can do something about it, the right way... please give iggy back to the family..... ellen admitted making a mistake.. we all make mistakes through life.... have a heart mutts and moms.... thanks

It is the objective of the rescue organizations to place the animals in a safe loving home. There is NO WAY Ellen or Portia would have spent the kind of money they did on this dog, not to mention the negative publicity that could come from it, if they were to give the pup to a home that was not fit. The fact that this lunatic lady made the comment that she wouldn't give the dog back to them, ever, because of the way they treated her just goes to show that she is being unreasonable and vengeful and keeping the dog from the family on purpose. How would she expect them to treat her when she went to the home for one reason and then took the puppy away from the little girls. Yes, Ellen made a mistake by not reading the paperwork but get over it. It wasn't intentional it was a MISTAKE and I hardly think that she would have done it knowing the outcome. Just give the puppy back to the family. This women should really not be involved with a pet rescue group when she clearly is a person who reacts out of anger and is vengeful.

All of this over 1 puppy. There are millions waiting Ellen - try to do some good from all this badness you created

for people like Ellen who don't follow rules:
Eat this, Ellen
Animal Overpopulation

UNITED STATES FACTS & FIGURES Oxford Lavayette Human Society

• Number of cats and dogs born every day in the U.S.: 70,000 (nearly 3,000 born every hour or 50 born every minute)

• Number of stray cats and dogs living in the U.S.: 70 million

• Number of animals in the U.S. that die each year from cruelty, neglect, and exploitation: 30 million

• Number of animal shelters in the U.S.: 4,000 - 6,000

• Number of cats and dogs entering U.S. shelters each year: 6 - 8 million

• Number of cats and dogs euthanized by U.S. shelters each year: 3 - 4 million (nearly 10,000 animals killed every day)

• Number of cats and dogs adopted by U.S. shelters each year: 3 - 4 million

• Number of cats and dogs reclaimed by owners from U. S. shelters each year: 600,000-750,000 (10% of total entering shelters - 15-30% of dogs and 2-5% of cats)

• Yearly cost to U.S. taxpayers to impound, shelter, euthanize, and dispose of homeless animals: $2 billion

• Percentage of dogs in U.S. shelters which are purebred: 25 - 30 %

• Average age of animals entering U.S. shelters: under 18 months old

• Percentage of animals entering U.S. shelters that are healthy and adoptable: 90%

• Percentage of owned dogs that were adopted from an animal shelter: 18%

• Percentage of owned cats that were adopted from an animal shelter: 16%

• Percentage of animals entering animal shelters by animal control authorities: 42.5%

• Percentage of animals entering animal shelters that were surrendered by their owners: 30%

• Percentage of people who acquire animals that end up giving them away, abandoning them, or taking them to shelters: 70%

• Percentage of animals surrendered to an animal shelter that were originally adopted from an animal shelter: 20%

• Percentage of animals received by animal shelters that have been spayed or neutered: 10

Iggy needs to go back to the girls. Iggy was loved! Imagine what is going on with this poor animal. Iggy is confused and hurting too. Animals have feelings!!!!all this lady had to do was do a home evaluation!!! Obviously she is in this for popularity and money----It appears she has no HEART! A lot of places are like her though. They say they want good homes for animals and when a person comes and picks out a pet and spends the day with the pet and goes out and buys everything ---then they turn you down. Me---I was turned down because my vet had not kept records up to date. They sent in the actual stuff showing error on their part but I was still turned down.

The owner of Mutts and Moms souuld ABSOLUTELY BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF. Since when is a contract more important than a dog who longs to have a loving home? Ellen did a WONDERFUL thing adopting and spending generously on her dog, later to find a loving home. Most animal lovers are compassionate people, like Ellen. Where is THIS WOMANS compassion?This dog and family were bonded to each other. Hasn't this poor little dog been through enough?
I'm GLAD that that website is off the internet...it should have never been there in the first place. She probably wants to re-sell the dog and make MORE money. SHE MAKES ME SICK.

If this agency is truly in this for the well-being of the dog, then why not allow the dog to be with a family that loves it? Isn't placing the dog with a good family what's important and not who's who gets the last word? Check out the home and family and stop behaving like children. It looks like the owner of this organization is just doing this for the publicity. Grow up!

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She is gonna end up suing Ellen for mental anguish and distress. I wish IGGY had his on independent attorney and could sue Mutts and Moms for his mental anguish and distress.

The Hairdressers home was a good home for the dog, she obviously has a good job if Ellen thought enough of her to give IGGy to her. These people at Mutts and Moms are being extremely irresponsible! If the hairdresser is willing to go thru the home evaluation let her! That poor dog. If it is really about finding homes for these dogs then get on with it! This is the most ridiculous agency I have ever seen they are acting more like they are in it for the money and not for the benefit of the animals. This will change course to a law suit against Ellen mark my words, I hope that the Hairdressers family follows up with a joint counter suit for mental anguish!!!!!
FREE IGGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not about Ellen and what she did. However, it has turned in to that. The expected "Celebrity Preferential Treatment". Oh Please! Those people at Mutt's and Moms should be ashamed of themselves. How many people are they going to hurt? Those heartless people never even gave that little girl, Ruby, and her family a chance. Did they ever think of Iggy and what is best for him. No, they didn't. They have adopted Iggy out to yet another family. "SHAME ON YOU" Greed has gotten the best of them. In their sick, greedy little minds "Bad Publicity is better than No Publicity." Shut that place down.

We're on to you oh defender of Ellen. We know you're all the same person. Please stop excessively commenting. Thank you.

It a shame that in order to make a point, a family will continue to be deprived of a much loved pet. Mutts and Moms really need to think about the long term effect their actions will have on all future animal rescues...

they all make Anne Heche's Celestia moment seem like a walk in the park -- The dog people do get a tad crazy with their rescuin and adoptin but Ellen is a crazy broad ...the sobbing? you're in your 50s lady, not 12.......

Jenn I do not know who you are calling a hench men.

It saddens me as an animal lover that a person who profess to love would do something so absolutely disgusting. Having the dog returned was one thing but the sneaky lying way you did it makes me see you are not someone I would support. I see your name in politics same mind set. You went after this dog not be cause he was in jeopardy but because it was a celb and you are gong to show her who is boss. Those who sent you death threats should be prosecuted but those who have supported your (non prophet) business should not send a dime because of your actions you deem animals above people and sorry not the case. I have 2 cats a bird and dog sit. Sorry lady you handled this poorly and now you fain hurt and dismay. Do NOT BELIEVE YOU. I am not an Ellen fan so forget that angle.

You were wrong there was a much better way to handle it taking the dog back you cannot just blanket and say all kids under a certain age are not suitable for a pet. (dog) You rules are ok however your actions were WRONG & heartless.

This situation was handled so poorly by Mutts and Moms. I really hope the "rescue" shuts down permanently. Had a person from Mutts and Moms gone over to the hairdressers home, interviewed the family and watched them interact with Iggy, this situation would not have gotten so out of control. They may have agreed with Ellen and left Iggy there. They are completely heartless & greedy people. Then this woman cries about it on camera. Oh Boo Hoo. She has no one to blame but herself. I can see the lawsuits coming. Those people need to close their rescue and very quietly disappear. Oh, but I forgot, there could be money involved.

WHAT BS!!!!! Mutts and Moms should be ashmed of themselves. they should of just evaluated iggy in those peoples home and worked with them. I wouldnt ever adopt from them theres so many of these groups out there that arent in the dogs interest they are to stuck in finding totally perfect lives and nothing less. I adopt and I currently own 3 dogs. I work with pets everyday as my job and I know the adoption process is alot but some of these groups are extremely worse then from getting a dog at a sheltar. im glad her website and phone is down she deserves it if someone can be so cold and go take a dog from children instead of seeing what they have to offer then thats terrible. I applaud ellen and I hope she sticks with it!! again I say what BS! and im from GA not even in LA

I think mutts and mom's is a disgrace to the animal adoption world. To rip this dog away from an obvious good home due to a technicality in paper work is literally stupid...to make this little girl cry from her dog being ripped from her arms...is pretty LOW! Mutts and moms you got your two minutes of fame...let's see how your business goes now...
HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GET now...I hope you go out of business...I am sure all of this could have been avoided with just a simple transfer of ownership...
GREAT GOING!!! get used to dog food.. SHAME ON YOU!

Ellen made a mistake admitted the mistake, and then the dog rescue shelther got its tail in an uproar and took the dog away for a little girl and her family.

Why couldnt the Mutts & Moms rescue for animals make an evaluation of the home Ellen gave the dog to, and give either a yes or no on whether the family could have kept the dog.

Mutts & Moms is wrong in how they handled this whole situation.

Ellen owned up to her mistake she didnt try to sweep it under the rug like most people.

And I will never never never ever ever adopt a dog now, thank you M&M.

I understand why there have to be rules in adoptions but rather than immediately taking the dog away from the new family, it seems like more rational thing to do would have been to go visit and talk to the family. Even make the family (Ellen's hairdresser) go through the adoption process rather than yank Iggy away. The co-owner of Mutts and Moms says she acted in the best interest of Iggy but if Iggy was in a good and loving home, she took that away from Iggy. I think she took Iggy away to spite Ellen. Her actions were vengeful and poor Iggy paid the price. By what Ellen did for Iggy, the adoption lady KNEW Ellen loved Iggy and she should have worked with Ellen and the hairdresser's family - that would have been the reasonable reaction. This lady's on a power trip and I don't know that she deserves to be adopting out animals. They ought to put her through some type of psychological process to see if SHE is fit to be adopting out dogs. I think she'd fail miserably. On the Today Show she said she's been having heart palpitations and I feel for her for that but that's called karma. I smell a lawsuit somewhere in all this. I think she's going to come after Ellen claiming Ellen caused her much distress and emotional turmoil - bullcrap - she brought it on herself. Why wasn't Ellen's name put on the microchip like it was supposed to have been? Ellen should be able to go after her for this big faux pas - no pun intended. As the wicked witch would say..."What a world, what a world..."

I have heard horror stories from M&M before but this takes the cake. The practice of this rescue organization is profit. They took my step mother dog from the back yard and placed it back up for adoption. The woman who runs the organization is insane.My Step mom begged her for the dog back and the woman said I care less about you than a bug on my wind shield. She is a heartless B**** who has several complaints on her for how she treats her dogs. Good for Ellen for standing up to her.

understand that rules are made for a reason - but being an animal lover and having had to give up an animal that I have adopted because it was biting or acting up with me I chose a person that wanted my animal explaining why I had to give it up rather than giving it back to the agency that I got it from knowing that if they couldn't get it a good home it would be put to death. I think this agency was wrong in taking this animal away from a good home that I am sure Ellen knew and she didn't just give it to anyone. If I were looking for an animal in no way would I use a company associated with Mutts and Moms -also this animal was supposed to have been microchipped immediately upon adoption by Ellen and it wasn't.

Ellen really, really effed up. Running on tv to cry and wail about Mutts & Moms and how awful they are. She didn't expect threats? She initiated it, for pete's sake! She got herself and everyone else all riled up, and for what? I hope she has the integrity to apologize and admit she made a huge mistake. I doubt she will, though. And it wouldn't matter if she did or didn't. I'm no longer a fan and will not watch her show. She can wail and cry all she wants. I won't be there to listen.

I think this whole situation is out of hand, I personally think if Mutts and Mom wanted to they could have avoided this situation. They are equally just as bad as Ellen because they had to get the police involved. Why couldn't they just instuct the new owners of the dog to come down and fill out the new paper work and of course pay them for the new adoption. If Mutts and Moms had any objections after that then that would have been a different story but to pull a little dog out of a loving home with children is much more of a crime than anything Ellen did. Shame on them!

Mutts and Moms lawyer said Ellen's publicist threatened her. What a load of bs. The phone call was aired and they merely told her that unless she starts cooperating and giving the dog back to the little girls this will not go away it will get worse. They were not saying they would be making it worse. Who knows if the death threats are even real? Are they or are they just a figment of the imagination of an overzealous animal rights protector?

Some people have the best intensions that go wrong. I'm sure Mutts and Moms love pets but sometimes common sense has to take over. Just think what's the best for the dog and the little girl who loves it.

Having rescued numerous animals, and working with agencies who do the same, this absolutely floors me!

Most rescue organizations have contractual agreements with adoptive families, true. But their bottom line is to find good, healthy, loving, permanent homes for the animals they foster while freeing up their resources to do more of the same for other innocent creatures.

In this situation, a legitimate rescue organization, truly concerned about the welfare of the animal and not the scope of their organization's publicity, would have been able to adjust for such unforeseen events by performing an immediate home check and perhaps second or third unannounced visits to make sure these folks and their kids were placement-appropriate, also acquiring a signed waiver of responsibility since the original contract was made with a completely separate party. Believe me, five years down the road if an animal takes a nip out of someone, the owner is held liable - not the rescue organization who adopted the animal out. Most contracts do state what the owner's responsibilities for the animal will be and are prepared to protect the rescue organization. And...if they have an attorney now, I'm sure they had legal counsel from their attorney when preparing a contract used by their organization for the adoption process.

It galls me to see so-called "rescue" groups exploiting animals in this way. This group is nothing more than a cover for a different kind of dog fighting venture. Though not a fan of Ellen Degeneris, I recognize that she made a mistake with the best of intentions. And, though I find the threats and behavior of some of her fans to be completely maniacal, Moms

ha ha ha
So obvious when there's a fake t-bone in the house. That wouldn't be someone by the name of LOOKWHATICANDO would it? ha ha ha. "LOOK" has always had it out for the real t-bone b/c the real t-bone won't worship at the alter of the Jolie-Pitts.
HI LOOKWHATICANDO! How are ya?

am in rescue and have had this happen to me, where a dog I loved, placed and found had been given away to another person because the adopter "forgot" about her contract. However, regardless of what the contract says, if someone adopts a dog they feel they become responsible and want to make sure it is in a safe home rather than return it to a rescue situation and possible trauma. Was I upset? Of course, but I checked out the home and it was a good one and they loved the dog. So why would I ever want to take it back, fill space that another at risk dog could fill, and make everyone unhappy? Some rescue people have the idea that they are the only ones in the world who know what is best for animals, become "collectors" who seldom place dogs, and more emotional than rational. There is NO rational reason to take this dog from the home in which it lived. They could even argue that the contract is unenforceable and the dog should remain with the family that was caring for it. This group in this case, is wrong, should take an application from the new family and send the dog back to the little girl. They are behaving very unprofessionally.

this is now officially stoooopid.

let's talk about the firecrotch.

Broken toe do you really think Ellen cares if you see her show or not. The little girl has cried for a week, Ellen was devastated by the news the dog was riped from the little girls hands. Ellen cared enough to bare her sole on TV begging for the dog back. M&M heartlessly decided to teach Ellen a lesson and give the dog to someone else. Do you get how wrong that is. The contract is bull and would never hold up in court nor did Ellen even sign the paper work. What they did was wrong and heartless and has know hurt 100 of real rescue worker. Grow a heart people!!!

That Mutts and Mom's lady could be a hero and come on the Ellen show and give the dog back and do a lot for animal adoption. She should look at the bigger picture and be a bigger person for that matter. She's probably got a good heart but sometimes people are stubborn. She will soften up. I hope at least. This is a no brainer. Give the dog to Ellen's hairdresser and her kids and be a hero. Ellen will probably donate big money and everyone will feel great and adopt a wonderful sweet dog. If Ellen is kind enough to adopt the dog then she is kind enough to pick a good home for it if it doesn't work out in her home. She's a good gal.

This lady is a idiot she would rather close her place down then let Ellen place the dog. She has to know Ellen is a good person and won't give the dog to anyone. This lady deserves everything she gets. What a hard headed idiot.

This whole thing is just stupid. The dog was not placed in harms way. It was placed with a loving family that obviously took the time and bonded with iggy. There are so many dogs that need good homes that mutts and moms could of even looked at the family as a "foster" family and just ask them to fill out the "appropriate" paperwork. Then they could take in another dog and possibly save it from demise. But they would rather leave the other dog to die and take this one back instead of having someone else "pay" for it. I guess I just will never understand stupidity.

I think this situation has nothing to do with the dog and is clearly a control issue. That Marina woman WAY overreacted ("How DARE you question my AUTHORITY!"). She took the dog from a home where it had bonded without even checking to see if it was a good home -- she didn't care. She just had to be right. How good for the dog was it to be exposed to all that commotion and negative energy and to be moved now THREE TIMES in two weeks? Who benefits there? Clearly this was handled very poorly by Mutts

Quit commenting lookwhaticando. We know half these anti-t-bone comments are from you.

This group's rule that only homes with children 14 years of age or older can adopt small dogs is ridiculous! On top of that, if they were truly a responsible adoption/rescue organization, they would NEVER place animals in homes prior to being spayed/neutered. Statistics show that contracts requiring adoptive families to spay/neuter and even free spay/neuter vouchers fail at a high rate. Spay/neuter is one of the most important steps in making sure additional unwanted litters don't happen because someone forgot or was too busy to get their pet in before it ended up pregnant.

I am so angry about this I could just scream. I really want to get a hold of petfinder.com, but the cowards don't have any contact info. These people are insane. They don't care anything about that dog or about that little girl. They just want more money. I tried to adopt a rescue dog a year ago, and almost had to give up because of the unbelievable forms you have to fill out and questions you are asked. I told my friends and family then that it would probably be easier to adopt a child than a dog. It is ridiculous. They ask "how do you feel about crating", "where will the dog sleep?", etc. I was so stressed that my answers would not meet their requirements. I don't believe in crating and the dog will sleep with me or anywhere it wants! But I wanted to answer the way they wanted and I didn't know what that was. It is crazy. Obviously, the new family loves the dog,it is safe, it is being well-cared for. So the rescue organization would rather put it back in a cage and risk letting some a-holes adopt it next time (who happened to answer all their stupid questions correctly) than leave it with people who love it and care for it. GOD, what a joke! Please remember that God gave Man dominion over the animals. We are not equal to animals. They are putting their so-called "animal rights" ahead of common sense and the feelings of a child and family. This is so wrong it makes me taste vomit in my mouth. I hope Mutts and Moms goes down the tubes, they have no business in the rescue business, because they obviously have their own agenda first and foremost. Ellen and Portia, you are good people and no matter how this turns out, the sensible and sane people of this country, and God almighty, know this.

NO!NO!NO! The hairdresser should not go to this organization to adopt an animal. Ellen adopted the pet, which by law should of been spayed or nutered and was not, they never checked out Ellen's home. However, they want to go to a contract that Ellen never signed to adopt the pet. It is Ellen's personal decision to give the pet as a gift if she has adopted it. You do not go to Wal-Mart and buy an item and then have to ask Wal-Mart if you can give that item to someone else as a gift. Come on. Ellen tried to do something that is totally in her nature, make other people happy, and now she is grief stricken over being made to look like a fool.

All of these comments defending Ellen are from the same person.

If you care about animals you do not let them be adopted without fixing them first. M&M broke the law in CA by not fixing the dog. Ellen signed no contract or filled out any paper work by M&M. To go into someone home and take a loving pet away from screaming kids; takes a heartless person.

What Paula obviously if you have a difference of opinion you must be the same person. Give me a break half the people on this board is for IGGY & the little girl. I have not seen to many defending Ellen. What M&M did to that little girl is wrong and if you had a child of your own you would realize the pain that child is going threw right now. If she had gone in and taken Iggy from Ellen no one woudl care; but to taken a child pet because you are mad at the celeb is WRONG. Iggy and that little girl do not deserve this treatment.

What I can't understand nor my husband is that if Ellen gave the dog to her hairdresser...and the hairdresser already had a dog...why couldn't the adoption agency 'qualify' them to KEEP the dog???? Would that have been so hard to do?

Also...as for Ellen ALWAYS getting her way....not so. This lady is just jealous that Ellen was right and she was wrong...also...if Ellen KNEW it was wrong...she could have lied to the adoption agency when she called to ask about Iggy...but she didn't lie! She told the truth about the dog.

Unbelievable situation....Hollywood never ceases to amaze me!!!

This is about putting the letter of the law above the spirit of the law. Yes, usually, these requirements make sense, but the final goal is to find the dog a good home. All signs are that the dog was in a good home, so to take it out of that environment just to meet the letter of the law is small-minded and mean-spirited.

The person commenting keeps using the same writing style and the same "M&M". Not likely that everyone out here writes the exact same way with the exact same opinion. Not real bright are ya, lookwhaticando?

Ohhhh a delay from the same multiple-commentor.
Thinking of other ways to write, different
writing style so we all don't know it's
you lookwhaticando?

I don't see anything alike in these post at all.They are not using the same writing style nor can half of them type that fast if you look at the time of post. I know this page was listed on google so maybe that is what is up tonight. who wants to write out Mutt's & Mom's for god sake. Leave people to their own opinion just because it is not the same as your is OK. The majority of people on the web do not agree with what happen to Ellen;why should this site be any different.

there is no excuse for people sending death threat in this case, but marina batkis should get off her control freaking high horse and use her better judgement about removing a dog froma stable happy home when homeless dogs are a rampant problem in this country. If your organization is there to recue homeless animals, why are you wasting everyones time removing a dog from a loving home?! Any one with half a brain can see that that family and those girls (despite their under 14 age) are a great place for that dog. To hire a fink lawyer (I think his sleaze bag brother was my bro in law's divorce lawyer...same last name!), seize the dog, and threaten to take ellen to court, rather than simply checking out the family and confirming that they are a good stable match and leaving iggy where he is clearly happy is completely idiotic and blatantly control-freaky. What ba psycho move, what a waste of time and energy, what a terrible way to further confuse the bonding ability of a young dog. Clearly an organization who has the leisure of removing dogs from good homes isn't a rescue organization at all, if you have the time and ability to do that, then the dogs you represent aren't really in need at all! People would be doing the dogs of this country a much greater service to go out to a local kill shelter like the ASPCA of Humane Society and select a dog from their soon to be euthanized ranks...Help a dog who is really in need and adopt out of our euthanizing shelter system, not from a bunch of pampered people and dogs who clearly have too many homes to choose from!!!!

You, simply stated, are wrong. Perhaps it's because you are sadly misinformed. The nut job from Mutts and Moms won't shut up about 'policy not being followed'...oh, to have those words come back and bite you in the butt! It seems this slimeball didn't care enough about Iggy to do a house check with Ellen, didn't change the tracking chip and had also placed a dog in another home with two children the same age as the ones Iggy went to, thereby breaking HER OWN RULES. She has no business running a rescue...her concern is for herself, not those poor animals. Anyone who puts their need to be right before the welfare of the animals she professes to love is sickening and needs to have their business taken away and run by people who do actually care about animals.

Protesting a little too much lookwhaticando. or sorry TJ

As an advocate for shelter dogs, this woman went over the line, she did not have the best intentions for the dog if she did she would have finished her home inspection. she did not even try to get to know these people, she truly has control issues and borderline personality disorders. I understand the clause in the contract but her inability to display compassion for these people she should lose her business. and does not belong working with the public let alone with animals.

Yes, Ellen broke the contract, and yes there are good reasons for the terms in that contract, but in this case what interest (aside from ego) was served by being so heavy handed? Not that of the family in question, and certainly not that of the adoption agency, who must have their hands full finding suitable homes. What would it have cost them to act like decent human beings and have a look at the family as a potential home?
Nothing. Instead, their heavy-handed, repo-man tactics have resulted in a storm of bad publicity and probably set back the effectiveness of their operation, and oh yeah, broken the heart of a little girl. Nice work.

YAWN lookwhaticando.

Mutts and Moms owners, Marina Batkis and Vanessa Chekroun, declared they will not be "bullied" by someone just because the are a celebrity. Funny, they had NO PROBLEM bullying two little girls and removing their pet. They are two self-righteous control freaks who would be better suited in another line of work...something that suits their personalities...something along the lines of prison guards, maybe. I have no pity on them, or their organization. You reap what you sow.

The truth of the matter is that Mutts and Moms handled this entire situation badly and you are blindly defending them. This kind of cruel snatch and grab of the dog from a child is enough to make everyone buy their dog from a pet store to prevent it from happening to them. There has never been any allegation that the family mistreated the dog, and YES, Marina said that she will NEVER let that family adopt this dog because of the way that SHE has been treated. And you have obviously not seen the video of the little girl sobbing or you would know that she was firmly attached to the dog. How long did it take you to become attached to YOUR dog? And how would you feel if the pound came to your house and snatched your dog away because Marina had violated a contract with them that you were unaware of(as Ellen did as the middleman here)? Just because you like the lady doesn't make her right. She reminds me of the wicked witch of the west that snatched Dorothy's dog away with a court order. Legally right doesn't always equal morally correct.

I hope the owners of the Mutts and Moms Dog Rescue will reconsider their policy regarding the adoption of Iggy and Ellen DeGeneres giving the dog to her friends. I feel it would be harder on the dog to be taken from the new family who love her and placed in another home. I realize the dog has already been taken, however, I feel returning the dog as soon as possible to the family would be in the best interest of the dog. When future pets are adopted from the agency, they could reiterate their policy that the animal must be returned if it doesn't work out with the adopted family.

What makes this persons judgement better than anyone else's? Does she have some sort of animal placement degree? Is she the only person in the world who can recognize a good home? What a self-important a$$-biter!

This "nice" agency brought on this entire fiasco themselves with their need to leverage the situation for publicity. Too bad for them it backfired because they are continuing to carry on this "charade" of morality for what. Because Ellen D. didn't follow protocol? Because she found a loving and suitable home for a pet who needed one?

While I don't advocate the threats, and certainly not the level of threats, these women are getting, I do NOT feel sorry for them.

They ruined their own reputation with really poor and vain judgment. Pity the dog, pity the family, but don't pity those women. They got exactly what they asked for, and deep down, they know it.

That's EXACTLY why they are reacting the way they are. The whole *woe is me* routine doesn't work when you cause the issue by being an a-hole.

If they were smart, they'd swallow their pride, pull their heads out of their asses and negotiate with Ellen for a peaceful and pleasant resolution.

Idiots. Don't we have global hunger to solve? This is SO stupid.

This is the best bit of writing I have read on this yet. I could not believe she ducked into her yard weeping then came out with a scruffy one eyed mutt and cradled him close to her the entire time. I almost laughed, but then I realized how sad I was for that poor little Winky being used by this weasel to make herself seem like a true animal lover. Sorry. You lost that when you showed up with the police to take a puppy from a little girl.

And what is this crap about kids not being able to have dogs? I grew up with dogs so I don't get when allowing your child to coexist with a puppy became a major no-no. Don't children and puppies kind of go together? I guess these people are boycotting The Little Rascals and Lassie as well as Ellen. What a bunch of losers.

Give them the dog back!!! To use the dog like that is wrong. Give me a break.

I am very impressed with the detail and the fairness of this review. I agree that the entire matter is receiving entirely too much media coverage, but as we seem to all agree, these idiots brought this on themselves. Their one and only concern should be for Iggy. Iggy evidently has a lot of energy that did not abide well with the felines of the family. Ellen was doing what was best for Iggy. That was certainly NOT to return Iggy to cage in a non-loving environment. She found a loving home with children to enjoy the bundle of energy and all was well. These women evidently are control freaks and if they could not personally pick the family, nothing else was acceptable. How utterly stupid and inhumane. I think they should be investigated and not be allowed to take rescue pets. How and from what agency are they reviewed and licensed? I definitely think they are in the wrong business. They obviously do this as a job and not for any caring or humane feelings. I say, put them out of business and take Iggy away from them!

It's too bad that Baktis and Chekroun went ahead and placed the dog in another home, when a deal could have been struck with DeGeneres and company... a deal that could have involved money changing hands and apologies all around. Now the adversarial positions have hardened. Ellen can get her hairstylist's children another dog, and they will eventually get over their disappointment, but "Mutts and Moms" will feel the effects deeper and longer. This is an excellent example of cold, logical, principled, justice-oriented thinkers clashing with warm, emotional, value-oriented, kind-hearted feelers. The cold-hearted thinkers are always going to come off looking like the bad girls. Hopefully Baktis and Chekroun will learn a lesson from all this.

I really think that Mutts and Moms hurt themselves by acting so hastedly and for remarking that they are being "bullied" by Ellen. Shame on you! You are NOT being bullied by anyone. Ellen did not hurt you, you hurt yourself in the way you handled this entire situation. What is even worse is the fact that Iggy is the one who got lost in this whole situation. The purpose of your organization is to find the pups a home. Kids under the age of 14 can be extremely good for the pups and vice versa. Yes, Ellen made a mistake. We are human. We all make mistakes. Are you trying to tell the public that YOU never make mistakes. Can you not just for a moment put your own feelings aside and think of Iggy and how he was accepted into this family? What is more important to you, finding a home for Iggy or proving to the world that Ellen is wrong and you are right? Better recheck your priorities.

what a b**** ~ a loving family and plenty of $ for vet bills etc. is a bad thing ~ marina you are in the wrong business ~ i hope your business is totally ruined ~ they are not YOUR ANIMALS ~ THEY ARE GOD'S ~ and god wants them to be loved even if you don't like it ~ every bad thing that may happen to you as a result of your hard heartness is less than you deserve ~

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Ellen is not ruining their reputation - they are - unless what Ellen has said about their actions are untrue.

It's very interesting that they "seized" the dog from the hairdresser's house. Very much like OJ's "sting". However, as a legal matter, Mutts & Moms may not have had the legal right to take the pet from the hairdresser's family. They may be guilty of robbery or larceny. The hairdresser had no privity of contract with Mutts & Moms and, unless Mutts & Moms filed a Uniform Commercial Code statement with respect to their "property" it is quite possible that the hairdresser's family was the legitimate owner and was robbed. In any event, a court order should have been issued. It is also quite possible that the laws in California do not permit such discriminatory agreements that pets cannot go to a house with minor age children (unless there is a public safety issue). It's the same as saying that they can't go to a house with lesbians.

SOMETHING'S SO WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. AS AN ANIMAL LOVER, I CARRY WATER, DOG AND CAT FOOD, AND A LEASH IN MY CAR. IF I SEE A WANDERING ANIMAL, I'LL STOP AND TRY TO GET IT AND FIND THE OWNER (IF A TAG IS ON THE COLLAR). AT LEAST PUT SOME FOOD AND WATER ON THE GROUND. YES, ELLEN IS A CELEBRITY, BUT IT SEEMS THAT SHE HAS A HEART OF GOLD. SHE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AFTER TRYING TO BOND IGGY WITH HER CATS. SHE DID WHAT WAS IN HER HEART AND LET IGGY GO TO A HOME WHERE SHE WOULD BE LOVED AND SPOILED. WHAT A LIFE IGGY COULD HAVE. FORGET THE CONTRACT. LET THIS POOR DEFENSELESS ANIMAL SPEND THE REST OF HER DAYS WITH A FAMILY THAT LOVES HER. THE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN THE CARE OF MUTTS AND MOMS WILL ALSO PAY THE PRICE AS THE PUBLIC IS NOW AWARE OF THE RIDICULOUS RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON ANIMAL LOVERS THAT ARE ONLY TRYING TO RESCUE AND HAVE A NEW FAMILY MEMBER. MUTTS AND MOMS, YOU'RE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE - THERE'S TOO MANY OF US THAT THINK YOU'RE WRONG. STOP NOW WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD.

This is so sad and has totally ruined my opinion of Ellen. I have been a huge fan of her for years and this is breaking my heart how she has ruined an organization that is trying to help animals. Especially after reading posts like this and the comments with it that are just trashing a great organization like Mutts & Moms.

And the worst part about Ellen is she just gave up on the dog after three weeks? My pets are a part of my family. I wouldn never give one away just because I didn't want to spend the time and love it takes to have the pets get along.

NO! Ms. Baktis ruined Mutts and Moms reputation with her classlessness and cruel behavior. Ellen is just trying to help animals and Ms. Baktis is just trying to fix her life changing mistake. It's her OWN fault! What dumb woman!

Ellen made a mistake. Moms and Mutts made a mistake. Now let's everyone take a big breath and calm the hell down. There is no reason that people should be treating Marina Baktis like this, but I don't think for her to translate that into Ellen "bullying" her is the right thing either. The public needs to back off of everyone so that this situation can be resolved fairly and with consideration to all parties involved.

The twisted logic is this....since Ellen found that the dog just did not work well in her home, she did the best she knew how and found it a home in which it DID fit in and fit in well. When MaM found this out, instead of going ballistic, they could have taken the dog TEMPORARILY while they ran their little tests and let the family fill out an app.

Yes, Ellen did the wrong thing, but so did this agency. Two wrongs make a right?

This woman strikes me as having control and obsessive issues far beyond just she doesn't think the home was a good fit for the dog. This could have been handled MUCH differently.

And even the National Humane Society will let a family with children the age of this adopt a dog. Here are the guidelines from the National Humane Society for children and pets:

Bernice be careful you'll get attacked by lookwhaticando who is making almost all of these
comments. None of these people have every even
been on this website before.

Me oh my the rational intelligent people on this website must have gone home for the day and the crazy people have emerged sticking up for Ellen Degeneres. Ellen made her show her platform. That is dangerous and will get her into trouble. Someone could have been hurt physically by her irrational plea. I agree with the other person who said grow up Ellen you're not 12 years old.

lookwhaticando is snatching comments from Just Jared and pasting them out here to make it look like everyone agrees with her. Go look.

Did someone give ASL's website link to the Degeneres fanatics? MY GAWWWWD!

Oh boohoo, so some little girl cried. Trust me, stick a new puppy in her arms, she'll forget about the other one.

I think Ellen was stupid for adopting the dog in the first place. First off, I'm a HUGE cat lover. The other day, I was at the vet buying my cat her food. A man was there with two five-week old kittens!!!!!! They were the cutest things I have ever seen in my life. Teeny tiny and they were best friends. He said they would shortly be up for adoption, did I want them. As badly as I did, my cat HATES other animals, especially dogs and cats. Then I thought of my brother who had to put his kitty down last year and loves cats as much as I do. But I didn't take them because he has said he's not ready for another cat.

Do you see where I'm going? To dispute Fool's foolish argument (above), animals are not something from Wal-Mart, they are a huge responsibility that you can't just jump into. What was Ellen thinking?

Rules are there for a reason but if some little girl cries, we should throw them out the window? Regardless of who is the bigger attention-whore, Ellen knows the impact she has. Look at the way her audience humiliates themselves by dancing at the beginning of her show. If you can make people do that, you can make them do anything.

Persistent Cat: you are disgusting human being to even say a thing like that. No wonder people like you can run over a cat or a dog and not shed a tear. A little girl is heart broken do you get that.. Sorry if you don't but other with a heart do and think the dog she loves should be returned. Heartless b****

Did you hear that Mutt's asked the family to fill out adoption papers so they could legitimately have the dog and they wouldn't? Ellen's stupid for giving the dog to a family who wouldn't even go fill out the proper papers to get the dog. LAZY ASSES! Sounds to me like they didn't really care ha?

Give her a break. She thought she was doing a kind thing. You've never cried before in your life?

I read somewhere else that mutts and moms or whatever said that Ellen had signed these papers, but she never did, and they didn't follow a lot of the procedures that they usually do, and them taking the dog back from the family is kind of an asshole move. They followed the rules they felt like following.

Don't worry Persistent Cat JOHN is lookwhaticando.

You know, I saw a story about this on some entertainment news show, and based on her sobbing I thought she was going to say that she had lost her mother (they are very close). I don't understand why THIS would make her cry so hard, but it seems to me that she is someone who gives a shit about people and animals. I am guessing that the Mutts n Moms organization took the dog from the family after the family bonded with the dog. I have a similar contract from where I adopted my dog, but it is really a formality to protect the animal. It would also require a lot of follow up work on the part of the adoption society, so I am guessing they were all up in her business and took advantage of her celebrity. I think Ellen is a genuinely sweet person who wanted to do something nice and had it blow up in her face. Shame on Mutts n Moms for using Ellen's celebrity to do something nasty.

"Mutts n Moms" instead of M&M

Nice change lookwhaticando. Good touch. Still know it's you. Same "shame on this...shame on that..."
Stop writing loser.

Jen the family filled out the forum on line. Do you read the news other than this site.
I just watched this Loon of a woman's interviewed and she is simply a nut job. It seems her ego is her priority not the dog in question. Because of this whack-job the poor puppy is being bounced around, maybe she doesn't have as much compassion as she would like us to believe. Here's hoping her business goes down and a truly worthy shelter can take over the care of the dogs she has in her possession.

Seems politics is going to get in the way. Because this woman is being harrassed, she is going to dig her heals in and deprive that little dog of a home where people can love it. At ANY rescue, the dogs are kept in cages or runs.

I understand the thinking behind them wanting the dogs back if they dont work out but heavens to betsy this is rediculous. As if there arent enough dogs without homes, she is creating another one. An under 14 rule is stupid. Ive had dogs around me since the day I was born and I am a better person because of it.

GIVE THE DOGGIE BACK TO THE LITTLE GIRLS

HI LOOKWHATICANDO HI THERE HI THERE

Lighten up, you dumb bitch, you're running a charity, not the Gestapo.

I bleieve these people want what is best for the dog, but like a selfish 2 years old, if you don't do it my way, then you lose. This group thought they would show their power of people, so that tells me they have a chip on their shoulders. They could have had the family come to the facility, fill out the needed paper work. And all would have gone well. If your dogs are in good shape, why did Ellen have to pay $3000.00 for a vet to fix it. That tells me your not taking care of the dogs. Peta, I would not support any longer, because of their commando attacks on people, and prono pictures. Like most things that start out as a misstep by someone it has turned into a big production. Shame on the Mutts and Moms, you handled it wrongly, and that makes me think you handle the dogs poorly too. Shame on you.....

This woman cares more about how she looks in all this than about that dog. You should see her on Access Hollywood weeping, clinging to a one eyed dog, claiming she has no money, but . . . well. Just look at the insignia on her glasses. She's a fake, she's a fraud. She thought she'd get some good publicity out of this, don't forget she threatened to call the media first, and now she has to deal with what she's started. I don't feel sorry for her at all. I feel for the poor little dog who taken from the little girl who loves him.

You can bet this chick is setting things up for a major lawsuit. She's going to be seeking money from Ellen pronto and I hope she's publicly shown to be the ass she is and loses.
The sad part about this is that this douchebag, so-called rescuer has driven away potential adopters (who wants to adopt from a crazy, and probably soon-to-be lawsuit happy indian-giver).
I bet if you look into her background you'll find out that this chick has done this sort of crap before. All sounds fishy to me.

realize that there have never been this many comments ever. Yet this one night there's comment after comment after comment never stopping all defending Ellen, all in the same writing style.
Then there's the fake t-bone. Typical lookwhaticando shit.
We're on to you.

Sorry to say, but I think this is just what this woman wants? You are making her the victim by acting like children and doing things that are just wrong (IE..DEATH THREATS). The whole point of supporting Ellen here is that she tried to do something good. Which I'm sorry, I truly believe she did not have bad intentions AT ALL.
She's already *oooo but I rescue dogs for a living, I don't deserve this*....you also took a dog from a good home without exploring all options first. I understand Ellen was wrong, but two wrongs do not make a right....I think we all learned that in the first grade.
There are lots of animals that need homes, please, adopt from your local humane society. Do not use private adoption agencies.

. I have been in animal rescue for over 25 years. My husband and I have 5 Rescue Dogs, they are treated as well as any human child sometimes better. Although I agree Ellen missed a step I agree with PETA that the dog should be returned. Ellen lives in a very high profile world and she has always made it known how much she loves animals. I am sure that she would not put herself in a position to be judged by placing the animal in nothing less that a wonderful home. My husband and I tried to rescue a small dog from "Small Dog Rescue" in Atlanta, GA about five years ago. Due to that we did not live in Atlanta they would not let us adopt the dog because they could not do "home checks", etc, we had many references, they still denied the adoption. Due to this they denied this dog a wonderful loving home!!! Mutts and Mom's obviously are trying to prove a point of control with this issue and have turned it into a personal issue toward Ellen. It presents that they are using her as there example because she is high profile. It is a very immature attitude, they should think of what is best for the animal and give it back to Ruby. This situation may backfire on them when it comes to a person deciding which rescue they want to support and donate to. They are putting a blemish on their own rescue shelter. Ellen gave an apology and they should accept it, check out the home and return the dog to Ruby. I just saw the interview this lady gave...she should not be rescuing anything....but since she does I hope she has a full-time shrink for the animals on board!!!! I pray she does not have two legged children!!!!!!!!

For once we get intelligent conversation on this site and every few minutes you get the regular dumbs ass's. What What What.... If you don't have a comment about the topic above shut the hell up.

I frankly find it hard to believe that this Mutts and Moms place would actually take back a dog that has been given a good, happy and safe home. So what it didn't work out with Ellen. Ellen gave that dog to someone who she trusted to be loving and take care of it. Ellen also paid for that dog and it was hers to give if she couldn't keep it. M and M should be shut down and let the real people who care about finding animals a good home take over. It is quite obvious that this place just wanted to drop Ellen's name around to round up business.

Isn't the point of pet adoption to find a good, safe home for these animals. Obviously, Mutts and Moms don't get it. SHUT THEM DOWN!!!! GIVE THAT DOG BACK TO THE LITTLE GIRL!!!

How sad that the poor dog was taken away from loving people. the poor dog won't understand. taking a dog from a loving family should be a crime in it's self. the point is to give the dog to people who will love and care for it. instead the dog is in a cold cage all by its self.
what the hell is wrong with this world

LOOKWHATICANDO
We know there aren't this many people
out here. WE know you can't stop writing.
Stop taking comments from other websites and pasting them here.
We're on to you. Nothing to do tonight
lookwhaticando? Nothing to do any night
lookwhaticando? No friends? DO you think it's maybe because you're a little sick in the head?

The true crime involved actually calling the police to assist you with taking the dog back. I can't believe tax dollars have to be spent on such things because there are such idiots out there. Don't you think the police have better things to do, like investigating actual crimes. Why don't you try some common sense in life Mutts & Moms. Maybe if you did you wouldn't be receiving nasty messages.

You're right. Ellen did the right thing and would never hurt an animal. What was I thinking? How could I be so stupid? How could I be so arrogant?

TC
Good conversation? The only person talking is lookwhaticando. No one else here but maybe three other people. Don't let the psychotic one fool you into thinking there are others.

John, I am not a heartless bitch nor do I run over cats and dogs. I love animals. Maybe I'm a little cold because the little girl's tears don't make me freak but so what. Seriously, give her another dog, she'll adjust.

Why is Ellen such a good judge of what's best for a dog when she couldn't even see it for herself?

There is no maybe in that baby your a cold hearted bitch!!!! The little girl doesn't want another dog, she wants her dog Iggy. It is call having compassion for another human being. You will get your and the only difference is no one will care...

Good job Ellen! So happy to see these **** lose their so called"business". They were a disgrace to society, and animals alike. Obviously they are NOT animal lovers.

Sham, shame on you Mutts & Moms - you should close up - if that is all you care about animals. Wha has ever happen to adults using common sense? Wonder how they would feel if their childrens pets were "ripped" from them?

Hey Vanessa and Marina how does it feel to be the two most hated women in the country?? Now there's an award to hang on the family room wall.

Next time think before you act!!

This agency should have thought be fore they went after the dog. They could have used common sense and if the dog was in a great home and the kids were doing right by him, why remove him..RUles are made to be adjusted in a case such as this..I hope they have learned their lesson.

Unbelievable!! Mutts and Mom should be ashamed of themselves. Ellen found a good home for Iggy and look how she was rewarded. Guess it just proves, read the fine print before signing anything. And I agree, maybe Ellen should have said Iggy was doing just fine, thank you for calling.

Why didn't the Mutts and Moms go and visit with the family and see how they got along with the dog, and the dog with the family? If the dog would be placed in another home anyway, wouldn't that have been better not only for the family who had bonded with the dog, but even better for the dog. Then they would be sure as to the dog being in a loving family.
Ellen didn't have to be honest and even tell them she place the dog in someone else's home. Sometimes people need to stop and think before they act.
So shame on you Mutts and Moms
Dog Lover

All those comments at the end
Again lookwhaticando. Don't let her fool you Persisitant Cat. She's the one talking. No one
else would be so insulting. She has mental
troubles. Needs help. Everyone knows it. She's been hiding for awhile b/c she got termed from
this blog but she's baack!

M&M are not mom's they have no idea the damage they did to that little girl. All the cared about is their power play with Ellen.It is outrageous that no one cares what a innocent child & dog went threw.Maybe if some of the cows on this site was loved as a child they would not be mean bitch's wasting there time on a gossip site... She's my friend; get a life you COW!!!!

Notice?
Every comment is the same. Just a little
different. Little one syllable names.
Lookwhaticando isn't all that creative or smart.
and is mentally sick. Poor bloke must not
have a friend in the world. Keep typing Look
whaticando everyone knows it's YOU, including
the editing staff.

Only person mean enough to say the things
these writers are saying is lookwhatican do. No
one out here would call anyone a heartless b or a COW or anything else. No one out here named John or anyone else. She's an angry one.
Scared lookwhaticando? Should be. We have
your ISP. All these words are coming from your
server. keep it up.

haha
Lookwhaticando can only write at night or
she be banned! If you wake up and find 200 mean
comments, she's the culprit.

Recently, I was exploring some different rescue agencies in my state (Va) and noticed lot of differences in "adotion fees" for dogs. Although this was said to vary in accordance with how much the place had to spend on vet care for the animals... i noticed a different trend.

For a dog that looked enough like a purebred to be advertised accordingly (without "mix" attatched to breed description) the adoption fee would be anywhere from $200-400... even if there hadn't been extensive vet work done.

For dogs that were clearly mixed-breed, the fee for adoption was rarely more than $75-100...Even if the list of vet work went on for 10 pages.

I wrote an email pointing this out, and asked for clarification... and the response I got was much more defensive and sarcastic than explanatory...it was worded with a deft precision in the speech pattern of a mouthy redneck girl who has had a bit much to drink and is swaying unsteadily, hand on her hip, berating her boyfriend.

the workers had much more to say about how hard they worked and how the work they did was so hard and "if I thought I could do a better job of it, well then why didn't I try coming down there to volunteer sometime so I could see what they had to go through".

ahem.

what i found equally curious was this policy about "under no circumstances do they adopt to college kids" just like this M&M place refuses to adopt to families with children under 14.
Is this not more than just a little discriminatory? Why not go ahead and say, "Under no circumstances do we adopt to because EVERYONE KNOWS are and not capable of taking care of a pet.

...i daresay it IS easier to adopt a child.

oops! correction:

***what i found equally curious was this policy about "under no circumstances do they adopt to college kids" just like this M&M place refuses to adopt to families with children under 14.
Is this not more than just a little discriminatory? Why not go ahead and say, "Under no circumstances do we adopt to *insert race / sexual orientation / nationality / religion / geography / gender / et cetera* because EVERYONE KNOWS *those people*are *insert stereotype here* and not capable of taking care of a pet.

...i daresay it IS easier to adopt a child.

I am not a cold-hearted bitch.

Where I'm from (Ontario, Canada), you have to jump through a lot of hoops to get an animal from the Humane Society. They don't adopt at Christmas, are careful at Hallowe'en and don't adopt out bunnies at Easter. They have to trust that those they do adopt out to are good homes, etc. But I guess if a little girl is crying, it must be the perfect environment.

Oh and BJ, are you calling us cows wasting time on a gossip site? Then tell me love, what are you doing here?

I didn't call anyone names, just stated how I felt.

Persistant Cat, I liked what you said many posts back. You sound thoughtful, and responsible. It's
too bad that the "new comers" have to get vulgar.
To What What What- I do see the pattern. It's great that you're calling her/him on it!!
The regular posters here are funny, witty and intellegent. The regular posters are also respectful in their communication. That is why it's fun to be here.

!!!!One hundred fiftieth!!!!

Hahahaha Congratulations Ruby!!!! At least someone got something out of all this!!! :-)

Oh, and Persistant Cat, I think you may have left already, buy I felt like sharing with you that I sometimes call my toilet the John. I'mjust saying...

T-bone said:
You're right. Ellen did the right thing and would never hurt an animal. What was I thinking? How could I be so stupid? How could I be so arrogant?

Posted on October 18, 2007 08:54 PM

**************************************
NOW, I KNOW THAT IS NOT T BONE, THAT IS JUST NOT T'BONE'S STYLE.

AND, THERE IS NO WAY PERSISTENT CAT IS A MEAN, COLD HEARTED BITCH. GO AWAY JOHN, YOU'RE A TROLL WITH NOTHING INTELLIGENT OR MEANINGFUL TO CONTRIBUTE.

WHO THE HELL IS "LOOK WHAT I CAN DO" AND "WHAT WAHT WHAT"??? IS THAT THE SAME PERSON????

I like Ellen a lot but c'mon, this is crazy. She messed up. I wish that the agency would have given the dog back, but if I would have had to go through what the people at the agency are going through ( death threats, constant calls...) I would have said the hell with everyone to. Anyway to see what I really think go to

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZiKHXIH0WHw

There's some extra footage and my take on the whole deal.

OH MY WORD! 155 posts. Had to check it out.

ZeldaF - per usual, you're right. That was not me. I wouldn't defend Ellen on this, because I simply don't agree with how she went about this.

Persistent Cat - consider the source of who's calling you names. Nothing to worry about. The person calling her out is SPOT ON. Lookwhaticando is wacko and has been banned from this site many times. Hopefully, they make people register their e-mails and usernames again, but don't hold your breath.

WHAT WHAT WHAT - you're my new hero ;)

Queencrone - I agree with you. The regular posters here are generally intelligent and thoughtful. Not too difficult to tell when there's a looney tunes on board ;)

Everyone keeps say Ellen messed up; she did and she now it, but to punish a child like this is also WRONG. The child is crying every night for her dog and Iggy was put back in a cage on Sunday how fare is that to each of them. Batkis broke the CA law of not altering the dog before adoption, she is in a legal mess she created for not being sensitive to the family. She brought this on herself with her power play. Ellen has apologizes and Batkis has not. Who is the bigger person her!!!! Give Iggy back

This looks an awful lot like the rest of the comments above.

What Tina said said:
This looks an awful lot like the rest of the comments above.

What does that mean??? You don't want other opinion you should not have posted this link on the news blog. What is this a private forum??? or do you all have to agree with each other to post on here.

"have posted this link on the news blog"

same claim on the other comments.... You need to get some new material.

The California is looking into M&M violating their laws of not adopting out pets that are unaltered. M&M is in a legal mess right now. Ellen violated a private contract between M.Barkis and herself but if taken to court the contract is not a legal contract in the courts. It is a personal contract between to individual. If Ellen sues for the dog she will win because of the Unaltered pet laws in CA.I say sue them and get that dog back.

Are you on heavy medication???

Hey lookwhatistepped in. I don't know if you know this, but Ellen Degeneres has her own website and I'm sure you can vent all you want out there and there might even be thousands of people who agree with you. Give it a whirl!

I saw the O'Reilly factor last night with the so called lawyer Fink. First he lied about the family filling out the application, they did it on line. That is how Barkis found out where they lived. The second matter is all the rescue organization say Ellen was wrong not contacting the agency but Mutts & Moms was wrong for not trying to work it out with the family.I'm a cat owner and i tried to adopt a dog the agency told me not a good idea and explained why to me. I adopted a cat instead, no biggy. Ellen give big bucks to these people at least she could have heard the other side before rushing in with the cops.

What you can't stand someone else's opinion on your no life blog world. T-BONE that kind of tells it all doesn't it...HHAAAAAHHHAAAAA

Additionally, ET Online reports that it is said the contract in question does not contain an age clause, another reason given by Mutts & Moms for taking back the dog. Their sources also tell the syndicated entertainment and news program that the family Ellen gave the dog to -- her hairdresser, his wife and their two pre-teen daughters -- did fill out an application online when the dog took up residence with them.

See I knew I read it some where Fink is a liar...

Keep drawing her out, T-bone. It's obvious it's her. She can't contain herself.
She has to keep coming back and fighting with you and everything she says has her name written all over it. The regular writers here don't do this.
Hey look! How are ya? BOOO!!!!

The lull is supposed to convince us that the
comments weren't posted by looky looky, but we
know better. She's lurking in space.
So predictable, so pathetic.

I cannot believe the damage Mutts and Moms has done to the rescue industry. My boss has called the agency and asked them to go to the table and do the right thing by Ellen. Ellen gives her time & money to this cause and what Marina has done is back stab the people who need financial help right now for their dogs. Plus the fact no one send dogs out without fixing them first place so I question M&M. It is a new CA law and soon even people who buy from Breeder will have to get special permission to breed in CA. Everyone know Ellen in this pet community we would never question her on what she does for her pets, she always has their best interest at heart. This is just a power struggle one that Marina is noted for...

We
know
who
you
are
rescue me.
We see you.

It's really a shame the the rescue group didn't take the opportunity to return the dog & get a lot of GOOD publicity about the need for more loving families to adopt rescue animals. They have forgotten in their anger about the many still homeless animals. They now pretty much have mud on their face. Instead of GOOD publicity they have gotten a lot of BAD publicity. What have they gained??? A whole bunch of steps backward!!! Now peopole won't want to adopt from a rescue group because of this. Mutts & Moms ... you should be ashamed at the damage that you have done to the rescue effort!!!!!!!

It's not like the dog wasn't in a loving home .. you have to make some exceptions to benefit both the animal and the rules. Those poor kids that have to go through this over some wack jobs dead set intent to be 'RIGHT' instead of doing what is right."

The actions of an inconsiderate and over-reaching control freak is what this boils down to.

Yes, Ellen broke the contract, and yes there are good reasons for the terms in that contract, but in this case what interest (aside from ego) was served by being so heavy handed? Not that of the family in question, and certainly not that of the adoption agency, who must have their hands full finding suitable homes. What would it have cost them to act like decent human beings and have a look at the family as a potential home?

Nothing. Instead, their heavy-handed, repo-man tactics have resulted in a storm of bad publicity and probably set back the effectiveness of their operation, and oh yeah, broken the heart of a little girl. Nice work.

I cannot believe what liar Mutt's & Mom's are the dog was smuggled out of the control freaks home today, not adopted out like she is telling everyone. Ellen and her lawyer are filing charges of kidnapping against M&M and Batkis is worried about the dog being found at her home. What a liar!!!!Ellen gives thousands of dollars to dog organizations and her time; I cannot believe this woman is treating her like this. The lawyer Fink has quit in light that he was just doing this to get one TV and if it turn into a legal issue we wants to get paid.. What a FINK!!!!

http://www.etonline.com/news/2007/10/54963/index.html

No
one
else
is out
here.
everyone
is done
with this story
lookwhaticando
we
know
it's
you and
no
one else.
BOO!
Funny
how all
these
people come
out here
at once.
look get help
you need it

I just don't understand why 2 children and a dog are being punished because of the mistakes made by adults. (And, unfortunately, I use the term "adults" loosely.) This situation did not have to go this far if the adults could have met to work out a reasonable settlement. I only feel sorry for the 2 girls and Iggy.

Poor
lookwhaticando
only
one
out
here
talking to
herself
again.
Must
be lonely
in there

Mutts and Moms owners, Marina Batkis and Vanessa Chekroun, declared they will not be "bullied" by someone just because the are a celebrity. Funny, they had NO PROBLEM bullying two little girls and removing their pet. They are two self-rightous control freaks who would be better suited in another line of work...something that suits their personalities...something along the lines of prison guards, maybe. I have no pity on them, or their organization. You reap what you sow.